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Image:Urinal_mouth.jpg[edit]
This is not in a public place, so that Freedom of Panorama does not apply. Teofilo (talk) 14:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Keep These is are just fixtures of sanitary plumbing. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 14:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- The image description page names the artist who made the design. Teofilo (talk) 14:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Designs of common objects are covered by laws about "protection of designs" (German: Musterschutz). The designs are published and registered very much like patents, and the owner of the design rights has a monopoly on producing such items for a limited time. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 15:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- The Berne treaty Article 2 (7) names two categories of countries :
- A) the country protects industrial designs "solely as [industrial] designs"
- B) the country protects industrial designs both as industrial works and as artistic works.
- Do you know to which category the Netherlands is belonging to ? A or B ? Teofilo (talk) 15:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- The Berne treaty Article 2 (7) names two categories of countries :
- Designs of common objects are covered by laws about "protection of designs" (German: Musterschutz). The designs are published and registered very much like patents, and the owner of the design rights has a monopoly on producing such items for a limited time. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 15:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- The image description page names the artist who made the design. Teofilo (talk) 14:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- The Netherlands would be B, as modelrecht does not exclude auteursrecht. However, according to COM:FOP#The Netherlands, these toilets would be in a public place (openbare plaats), a place "where one comes and goes", without special authorisation. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Even women ? Teofilo (talk) 17:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- The Netherlands would be B, as modelrecht does not exclude auteursrecht. However, according to COM:FOP#The Netherlands, these toilets would be in a public place (openbare plaats), a place "where one comes and goes", without special authorisation. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Public place, (more colorful than average) utilitarian objects. -- Infrogmation (talk) 17:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- en:Public space says : "A public space refers to an area or place that is open and accessible to all citizens, regardless of gender, race, ethnicity, age or socio-economic level. " but women are not allowed here. Teofilo (talk) 19:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- That's a social convention and not a legal ban. J.smith (talk) 20:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- Toilets is a place where people expect privacy, like a hotel room. All kinds of publics enter a hotel room, but one after an other. When a hotel room is occupied by someone, other people have to look for another hotel room, or wait until it becomes vacant. A toilet is the same. I guess that sculptures in hotel rooms are not available for FOP in Britain, so it should be the same with sculptures in public toilets. Teofilo (talk) 13:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- Four urinals side by side -> public. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:04, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- Toilets is a place where people expect privacy, like a hotel room. All kinds of publics enter a hotel room, but one after an other. When a hotel room is occupied by someone, other people have to look for another hotel room, or wait until it becomes vacant. A toilet is the same. I guess that sculptures in hotel rooms are not available for FOP in Britain, so it should be the same with sculptures in public toilets. Teofilo (talk) 13:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- That's a social convention and not a legal ban. J.smith (talk) 20:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- en:Public space says : "A public space refers to an area or place that is open and accessible to all citizens, regardless of gender, race, ethnicity, age or socio-economic level. " but women are not allowed here. Teofilo (talk) 19:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Keep This is in the UK, COM:FOP#United Kingdom applies. Carl Lindberg (talk) 04:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Kept. Perfectly OK under UK law. MichaelMaggs (talk) 18:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
